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    Post by geoweb35 on Wed Aug 15, 2018 9:47 am

    Hi,i need some info from experts:
    -how i use this A1/A2/ ammunition/shell types with C1/C2 ?
    Ex: C2 gunsight works with A2 shell
    - A1 is AP shell? A2 is HE shell?

    Thanks.

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    Post by lockie on Wed Aug 15, 2018 5:35 pm

    geoweb35 wrote:
    -how i use this A1/A2/ ammunition/shell types with C1/C2 ?
    Ex: C2 gunsight works with A2 shell
    - A1 is AP shell? A2 is HE shell?

    Yes, A1 is AP shell and A2 is HE shell scale.

    In fact, SU-152(later JSU-152) has been equipped with a very early gunsight reticle "T-9" from KV-2. It was designed for the gun ML-20S. The problem is that "T-9 reticle" didn't suit to the original shells of SU-152/JSU-152. That's why gunner had to use DURING the battle a tables how to calculate the distance to the target! Shocked  That's insane!

    After a while SU-152 was equipped with a new gunsight reticle "ST-10",
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    where the most usable shells were presented like:
    - BR-540(AP) and OF-540(HE). It is the first scale: "ДГ- ПУШК.ПЕРВ" (Dalnaya Grananta Pushka Pervy - Long-distanse grenade, Gun First). it is for the regular ammunition.
    - AP shell mod.1915/28 and AC G-545. It is the second scale "БТДГ- ГАУБ.ПЕРВ" (Betonoboynaya Dalnya Granata Gaubitsa Pervy - Anti-Concrete Shell Howitzer First). Gunner had to add 10% of the distance, ie for the distance 1000 meters there was a scale "11". etc.
    -  HE-540 "full-charged", G-530 (anti-concrete), OF-530(HE). All of them were not recommend to use with a full charge. The scale is "БТДГ- ГАУБ.ПОЛН" (Betonoboynaya Dalnya Granata Gaubitsa Polny- Anti-Concrete Shell Howitzer Full).

    This gunsignt "ST-10" is not presented in the STA mod, coz its too complicated.

    Thanks to will73 for his investigation!

    PS
    I've decreased the enemy quantity in the mission "Kuhari"
    Now there are presented at the balance "5":
    - 2x Tiger I
    - 2x Panther D
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    Post by geoweb35 on Thu Aug 16, 2018 7:16 am

    still i dont understand how to use C1 and C2 i dont have ST-10 gunsight
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    Post by lockie on Thu Aug 16, 2018 10:20 am

    geoweb35 wrote:still i dont understand how to use C1 and C2 i dont have ST-10 gunsight
    A1(AP shell) is C1 reticle
    A2(HE shell) is C2 reticle

    U may check how the reticle corresponds to the distance.
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    Post by mechanic on Mon Sep 10, 2018 11:08 am

    What is the difference between SU-152 and JSU-152?
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    Post by will73 on Mon Sep 10, 2018 10:09 pm

    mechanic wrote:What is the difference between SU-152 and JSU-152?

    Су-152 зроблено на базі КВ-1С
    ІСУ-152 зроблено на базі  ІС-1(2), випуск КВ-1С було завершено.  
    гармата, приціли- ідентичні

    Su-152 is made on the basis of KV-1S
    ISU-152 is made on the basis of IC-1 (2), release of KV-1S has been completed.
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    Post by frinik on Wed Sep 12, 2018 2:17 am

    isn't the IC-1/ IS-1 the same as the KV 85?
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    Post by will73 on Wed Sep 12, 2018 8:57 am

    frinik wrote:isn't the IC-1/ IS-1 the same as the KV 85?

    Схема-дерево серійних модифікацій КВ-1 та  ІС-1  1940-1945роки.
    Schematic of serial modifications  KV-1 and IS-1 1940-1945years.
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